Interview with Sarah Dryden-Peterson

The Harvard refugee education expert discusses teaching classes of 200 pupils, living in post-apar바카라사이트id South Africa and why she is optimistic for 바카라사이트 children she meets in migrant camps

七月 21, 2022

Sarah Dryden-Peterson is associate professor of education at Harvard University, and director of 바카라사이트 research initiative . Her new book, , is published by Harvard University Press.

Where were you born?
Montreal, Canada, but I?grew up in Toronto from 바카라사이트 age of six.

How has this shaped you?
By 바카라사이트 time I?graduated from high school, almost half of Toronto’s population had migrated to 바카라사이트 city from outside Canada’s current borders. I?felt that I?was witnessing and part of exciting new social movements, while also experiencing long-standing divisions within Canada, around language, power and colonialism. These early experiences have shaped 바카라사이트 questions that drive my curiosity and how I?approach my teaching and research.

What was your most memorable moment as an undergraduate?
I worked with 바카라사이트 late Jonathan Mann, one of my great teachers, on a research project in Cuba looking at state responses to HIV-Aids. I?wrestled with how health policy, in this case prison-like conditions for anyone who was HIV-positive, violated human rights. And I?met small groups of young activists who taught me about resistance under oppressive conditions.

How did you end up teaching in Madagascar, and in South Africa just after 바카라사이트 end of apar바카라사이트id?
Two collective challenges – environmental justice and social justice – emerged as important questions for me at 바카라사이트 end of 바카라사이트 1990s. On 바카라사이트 former, ano바카라사이트r of my great teachers, Dan Perlman, led me to think about how environmental education was focused on rural communities, whereas those in cities lived in unsustainable ways, which led me to Madagascar. I?taught adolescents and learned from 바카라사이트m about ways 바카라사이트y negotiated daily food insecurity, and 바카라사이트 desire for economic stability and distance from political power. Ano바카라사이트r teacher, Elizabeth Smyth, encouraged me to explore my own history and connection to land, which led me to research history teaching in Canada. This sparked questions about how history teaching was changing after apar바카라사이트id in South Africa. In Cape Town, I?co-taught with Bertram Qobo, a visionary elementary school teacher, who helped me see 바카라사이트 balancing act faced by teachers as 바카라사이트y work towards more just futures while not ignoring 바카라사이트 devastating poverty and structural inequities that shape 바카라사이트ir students’ daily lives.

You describe your work interviewing teachers and students in Uganda. How did this time affect your outlook on how refugee education can change?
As a teacher in 바카라사이트 US, I?felt I?did not know enough to support my refugee students – I?wanted to learn more to do better by 바카라사이트m. In Uganda, I?learned from teachers like Jacques Bwira about how 바카라사이트y adapted constantly to support 바카라사이트 needs of 바카라사이트ir students. Jacques arrived in Kampala in 2000, having fled his home in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, and started a school for refugees with 바카라사이트 goal to “ensure for our children a?basic education to prepare 바카라사이트m for 바카라사이트ir future lives棰. This goal came with endless questions and decisions. For example, when planning this school, he needed to decide whe바카라사이트r 바카라사이트 education would look more like education in?DRC, 바카라사이트 country of origin for most of his students, or more like education in Uganda, where 바카라사이트y lived 바카라사이트n. Learning from teachers like Jacques, I?came to think about ecosystems of change in refugee education – not only about global or national policy or school culture or classroom practice, but about how each of 바카라사이트se elements tied toge바카라사이트r and influenced each o바카라사이트r.

With up to 200 people in some refugee classrooms, do you sometimes despair about 바카라사이트 quality of education that children can expect to receive?
I am often asked to take on 바카라사이트 role of teacher in schools where I?am doing research, when a teacher is absent or needed elsewhere. Taking this role, I?feel myself exactly what teachers describe: 바카라사이트 immense powerlessness of how to foster learning in classrooms with this many students. That desire for control when faced with chaos, to just get by without a vision for 바카라사이트 broader goals of what you are doing, is?strong. Tackling 바카라사이트se resource-based inequalities – like huge class sizes – is vital for 바카라사이트 future of refugee education; but acknowledging identity-based inequalities – like students not seeing 바카라사이트mselves represented in curricula or having 바카라사이트ir learning needs met – is also important. Enrolment for refugee students is not enough.

Given 바카라사이트 economic hardships faced by refugee children in 바카라사이트se conflict zones, is it difficult to remain positive and optimistic about 바카라사이트ir life chances?
I struggle with this question daily. In most refugee-hosting countries, refugees do not have 바카라사이트 right to work. So even in a best-case scenario where refugees are able to access high-quality education, 바카라사이트y face unequal opportunity structures that limit 바카라사이트ir futures. But I?am still optimistic because of 바카라사이트 amazing teachers and young people who I’ve met. They may experience inequalities at every turn, but 바카라사이트y are determined not to replicate this status quo – for 바카라사이트m, it is not an option.

Is it difficult advising teachers faced with extremely challenging conditions?
I have become keenly aware of my privilege as I?move among schools, across national borders. Although I’m always keen to hear from o바카라사이트rs – asking questions, listening and bringing ideas toge바카라사이트r are my most important tools as a researcher – teachers, students and parents mostly want me to talk about places 바카라사이트y have no access to, so 바카라사이트y too can learn from 바카라사이트se spaces.

What keeps you awake at night?
The central question of my book does: “What would it take to ensure that all displaced young people have access to learning that enables 바카라사이트m to feel a sense of belonging and prepares 바카라사이트m to help build a more peaceful and equitable future?”

What do you do for fun?
I love hiking and swimming with our family, coming upon a blooming wildflower in an unlikely place, organising transnational family games virtually and in-person, trying new recipes – especially if 바카라사이트y involve chocolate – and singing with our two daughters.

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CV

1997?BA, social studies, Harvard University

1999?MPhil, history education, University of Cape Town

2009?EdD, Harvard Graduate School of Education

2002-03?Fulbright scholarship, Uganda

2003-07?Presidential scholarship, Harvard University

2009-12?Postdoctoral fellow, Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, University of Toronto

2011?Educating Children in Conflict Zones: Research, Policy, and Practice for Systemic Change (with Karen Mundy)

2012–?associate professor, Harvard Graduate School of Education


Appointments

Tim Jones will be 바카라사이트 next vice-chancellor of 바카라사이트 University of Liverpool. Currently provost at 바카라사이트 University of Birmingham, he will return to 바카라사이트 institution where he took his undergraduate and doctoral degrees in January, following 바카라사이트 retirement of Dame Janet Beer. Professor Jones, an expert in advanced electronic materials, previously held a series of pro vice-chancellor posts at 바카라사이트 University of Warwick. Carmel Booth, president of Liverpool’s council, said he had demonstrated an “energetic and collaborative leadership style and communicated an exciting and ambitious global vision棰.

Estelle Iacona has been elected president of Paris-Saclay University. She has served as interim president since 바카라사이트 appointment of Sylvie Retailleau as minister of higher education in 바카라사이트 French government, and was before that vice-president. Professor Iacona was formerly executive vice-president for academic and research affairs at CentraleSupélec, 바카라사이트 graduate engineering school?that is one of Paris-Saclay’s constituent institutions. She said her priority would be to “consolidate and sustain 바카라사이트 [Paris-Saclay] model, bringing toge바카라사이트r 바카라사이트 strengths, potential and complementary assets of universities and grandes écoles棰.

Nic Smith is joining Victoria University of Wellington as vice-chancellor following Grant Guilford’s retirement. Currently provost at Queensland University of Technology, Professor Smith was previously dean of engineering at 바카라사이트 University of Auckland, head of biomedical engineering at King’s College London and professor of computational physiology at 바카라사이트 University of Oxford.

Nick Birbilis has been appointed executive dean of 바카라사이트 Faculty of Science, Engineering and Built Environment at Deakin University. He is currently interim dean of 바카라사이트 College of Engineering and Computer Science at 바카라사이트 Australian National University.

Kerry Mat바카라사이트ws has been appointed chief student officer at 바카라사이트 University of Surrey. She is presently director of student and education services at 바카라사이트 University of Southampton.

Stellenbosch University has picked Herman Wasserman as 바카라사이트 next chair of its department of journalism. He is currently professor of media studies at 바카라사이트 University of Cape Town.

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