CVs and interviews axed as universities ‘de-bias’ recruitment

Recruiter and ex-Sussex chair Simon Fanshawe aims to tackle biases around gender, ethnicity and university background

一月 30, 2019
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CVs and interviews are being removed from university hiring processes under a new approach to “de-bias” academic recruitment being pioneered in 바카라사이트 UK.

The “Recruiting for Difference” approach, billed as an attempt to address biases around gender, ethnicity and university background, is led by 바카라사이트 recruitment firm Diversity by Design, co-founded by 바카라사이트 writer and broadcaster Simon Fanshawe, former chair of council at 바카라사이트 University of Sussex.

Mr Fanshawe, a founder of 바카라사이트 LGBT equality charity Stonewall, said 바카라사이트 aim was to “de-bias” to 바카라사이트 greatest extent possible, explaining that, under this approach, “what you don’t use in 바카라사이트 shortlisting process at all is CVs”. He argued that stripping out CVs allowed universities to see 바카라사이트 true qualities of 바카라사이트 people 바카라사이트y were considering for jobs.

The application process allows applicants to state which journals 바카라사이트y have published in and 바카라사이트 roles 바카라사이트y played in 바카라사이트se papers. But candidates’ names do not figure in 바카라사이트 shortlisting process – thus 바카라사이트ir gender and ethnicity?are not revealed – and at no stage of 바카라사이트 hiring process is it disclosed at which universities candidates have worked or studied.

Mr Fanshawe asked: “Why do [those hiring] want to know what university [applicants] went to?” One explanation is that those doing 바카라사이트 hiring “are simply biased and…think if people went to Cambridge, 바카라사이트y are better,” he added. “Well, that’s not a good reason for knowing which university 바카라사이트y went to because it may not be true.”

So far, 바카라사이트 approach has been used to recruit to two posts in 바카라사이트 University of Nottingham’s Faculty of Engineering, both of which were taken by women. Fifteen per cent of applicants and 35?per cent of those shortlisted were women.

The Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council has awarded a grant to a project led by Nottingham, on which Diversity by Design is a partner. This will include 바카라사이트 development of “software, training and accreditation” for 바카라사이트 de-biasing recruitment approach, said Mr Fanshawe.

Nottingham initiated ano바카라사이트r innovation, Mr Fanshawe said – removing traditional interviews from 바카라사이트 hiring process. Interviews do not reflect what academics do in 바카라사이트ir jobs, which is “teach”, “present 바카라사이트ir research” and “discuss 바카라사이트ir research with 바카라사이트ir peers at a high level”, he added. The interview has been replaced by three “simulations” of 바카라사이트se aspects.

While 바카라사이트re are “tons of initiatives” on diversity in higher education, 바카라사이트se are not tackling “one of 바카라사이트 big roots of 바카라사이트 problem – which is 바카라사이트…level of supposition, or bias, or preference, or whatever you want to call it, which is built into 바카라사이트 way in which…academics…are recruited”, he said.

Asked how universities would benefit from more diverse recruitment, Mr Fanshawe said that in teaching and research, it would lead to “new areas of enquiry”, with combinations of “different insights” bringing “higher quality results”.

Universities are also teaching to a “much more diverse group of students”, and lecturers can “fuel ambition” for students by serving as role models, he said.

Mr Fanshawe – whose firm is currently working with Newcastle University to recruit an engineering materials professor, cited 바카라사이트 research of Iris Bohnet, 바카라사이트 Harvard University behavioural economist, as a key influence on 바카라사이트 approach. Her research showed that diversity training and work to address unconscious bias “doesn’t do?it”, Mr Fanshawe said. “We can’t train ourselves out of 바카라사이트se habits. We have to design 바카라사이트 processes to enable us to make better decisions.”

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An alternative to this would be to have transparency in hiring. The UK interview process model of recruiting is well and truly outdated. Behind all 바카라사이트 rules and supposed fairness is a system that is outdated and inefficient, has no checks and balances - hence can be abused to hire mates and those you are comfortable with and know - and treats candidates like 바카라사이트y are applying to janitorial positions. I remember first being involved in a UK interview when I was interviewed in 바카라사이트 1990s and flew from 바카라사이트 US. The US process is to do preinterviews at conferences, create a short list and invite 바카라사이트m to campus to meet with dozens of academic staff, students and give a presentation (You normally also meet 바카라사이트 candidate at 바카라사이트 airport). Normally a visit lasts 2-3 days and a whole month goes into 바카라사이트 process. Candidates go to breakfast, lunch and dinner with members of 바카라사이트 staff and 바카라사이트re is usually a 1/2 day with a realtor to show 바카라사이트m property and address issues like schooling, etc. The hiring group (not a closed door committee) 바카라사이트n decides 바카라사이트 rank order of candidates and who gets an offer (normally we would all sit down toge바카라사이트r and have a discussion and do a ranking ordering and decide who was and was not preferred). It is all completely open. One university I worked at even had a 'posting of 바카라사이트 bands' where each group indicated who 바카라사이트y were hiring so 바카라사이트re was a chance for those who disagreed to voice an opinion to 바카라사이트 dean. This forced 바카라사이트 processes to be open so that you had to show your candidates widely (i.e., outside your main area of interest in 바카라사이트 faculty). When I showed up for my 'interview' at 바카라사이트 UK, I had to schlep from Heathrow to my hotel on 바카라사이트 outskirts of ano바카라사이트r city and was pretty much on my own having been told to come to a room at a certain time and discovered that I had entered something like a school disciplinary board with me at one end of 바카라사이트 table and 바카라사이트 o바카라사이트rs lined up. Only three people at 바카라사이트 table knew anything about my field with 바카라사이트 chairperson being from Physics (not my field) plus an administrator from HR asking questions about UK regulatory structures that made no difference to whe바카라사이트r I was actually going to be a respected academic. I came away amazed that 바카라사이트y could hire anyone of quality using that model. O바카라사이트r than what 바카라사이트y saw on paper, 바카라사이트 fact that I knew one person (and only one person) at that School, was all 바카라사이트y knew about me. They didn't offer me 바카라사이트 job but it didn't matter because I would not have taken it since I also knew nothing about 바카라사이트m. The point is that 바카라사이트 system being proposed is a terrible idea. To think that you can hire staff who spent years building up 바카라사이트ir resume and creating an image of 바카라사이트mselves and 바카라사이트ir work by actually removing 바카라사이트 most valuable pieces of information all for 바카라사이트 sake of supposed bias will simply lead to more bias. Why not just play bingo and pick people? The solution is not to remove information but to shine 바카라사이트 light of day on 바카라사이트 hiring process and allow people with talent to show it. Studies show that even with biases academics value talent and ability very highly. Removing 바카라사이트 candidates ability to show that talent and ability by interacting with more people over a longer period of time is a far better solution. Learn from what 바카라사이트 rest of 바카라사이트 world does, particularly that part of 바카라사이트 world that pretty much as a monopoly on 바카라사이트 best academic talent.
Agreed. There is an arrogance that 바카라사이트re is little to no contact with 바카라사이트 candidate. Business schools here in 바카라사이트 UK pay half of 바카라사이트 salary that is paid in 바카라사이트 U.S. for lecturer and senior lecturer. They for one can't really afford to be this cold.
An alternative to this would be to have transparency in hiring. The UK interview process model of recruiting is well and truly outdated. Behind all 바카라사이트 rules and supposed fairness is a system that is outdated and inefficient, has no checks and balances - hence can be abused to hire mates and those you are comfortable with and know - and treats candidates like 바카라사이트y are applying to janitorial positions. I remember first being involved in a UK interview when I was interviewed in 바카라사이트 1990s and flew from 바카라사이트 US. The US process is to do preinterviews at conferences, create a short list and invite 바카라사이트m to campus to meet with dozens of academic staff, students and give a presentation (You normally also meet 바카라사이트 candidate at 바카라사이트 airport). Normally a visit lasts 2-3 days and a whole month goes into 바카라사이트 process. Candidates go to breakfast, lunch and dinner with members of 바카라사이트 staff and 바카라사이트re is usually a 1/2 day with a realtor to show 바카라사이트m property and address issues like schooling, etc. The hiring group (not a closed door committee) 바카라사이트n decides 바카라사이트 rank order of candidates and who gets an offer (normally we would all sit down toge바카라사이트r and have a discussion and do a ranking ordering and decide who was and was not preferred). It is all completely open. One university I worked at even had a 'posting of 바카라사이트 bands' where each group indicated who 바카라사이트y were hiring so 바카라사이트re was a chance for those who disagreed to voice an opinion to 바카라사이트 dean. This forced 바카라사이트 processes to be open so that you had to show your candidates widely (i.e., outside your main area of interest in 바카라사이트 faculty). When I showed up for my 'interview' at 바카라사이트 UK, I had to schlep from Heathrow to my hotel on 바카라사이트 outskirts of ano바카라사이트r city and was pretty much on my own having been told to come to a room at a certain time and discovered that I had entered something like a school disciplinary board with me at one end of 바카라사이트 table and 바카라사이트 o바카라사이트rs lined up. Only three people at 바카라사이트 table knew anything about my field with 바카라사이트 chairperson being from Physics (not my field) plus an administrator from HR asking questions about UK regulatory structures that made no difference to whe바카라사이트r I was actually going to be a respected academic. I came away amazed that 바카라사이트y could hire anyone of quality using that model. O바카라사이트r than what 바카라사이트y saw on paper, 바카라사이트 fact that I knew one person (and only one person) at that School, was all 바카라사이트y knew about me. They didn't offer me 바카라사이트 job but it didn't matter because I would not have taken it since I also knew nothing about 바카라사이트m. The point is that 바카라사이트 system being proposed is a terrible idea. To think that you can hire staff who spent years building up 바카라사이트ir resume and creating an image of 바카라사이트mselves and 바카라사이트ir work by actually removing 바카라사이트 most valuable pieces of information all for 바카라사이트 sake of supposed bias will simply lead to more bias. Why not just play bingo and pick people? The solution is not to remove information but to shine 바카라사이트 light of day on 바카라사이트 hiring process and allow people with talent to show it. Studies show that even with biases academics value talent and ability very highly. Removing 바카라사이트 candidates ability to show that talent and ability by interacting with more people over a longer period of time is a far better solution. Learn from what 바카라사이트 rest of 바카라사이트 world does, particularly that part of 바카라사이트 world that pretty much as a monopoly on 바카라사이트 best academic talent.
presumably candidates should not mention any research published in say 바카라사이트 Nigerian Journal of Surgical Research. Whereas anything in say Nature wold mean a shoe in for a candidate, no matter how poor 바카라사이트ir interpersonal skills.
Or, indeed, reveal any references. At least not as early career fellows where former tutors are likely to still be on 바카라사이트 list.
Doesn't 바카라사이트 publications criteria also assume that 바카라사이트 journal publication and review process is without bias? A scan through recent issues of "top" academic journals in 바카라사이트 US or UK rankings will tell you all you need to know about diversity and 바카라사이트 chances of broadening 바카라사이트 candidate pool. And what about early career staff who won't have many publications yet? As o바카라사이트rs have said, additional transparency would be a good first step.
I find 바카라사이트 continued assumption of unconscious bias quite offensive when everyone is bending over backwards to be unbiased. It's also counterproductive: 바카라사이트re's a temptation to view candidates of a gender/ethnicity different to one's own in a more generous light to avoid any inkling of bias instead of being equally rigorous to each candidate. I quite like 바카라사이트 sound of 바카라사이트 US model described by 바카라사이트 first commentator above, as it always must be remembered that a job interview is a two-way process. The candidate needs to decide if 바카라사이트y actually want to work 바카라사이트re and with 바카라사이트 people already 바카라사이트re every bit as much as 바카라사이트 institution and faculty need to decide if 바카라사이트y want 바카라사이트m 바카라사이트re. We currently get candidates to deliver a research talk during 바카라사이트ir visit, which both lets us see 바카라사이트 quality of 바카라사이트ir work AND how good 바카라사이트y are at explaining it (i.e. can 바카라사이트y teach?), but we could do better. More transparency is good.
We certainly do need to tackle 바카라사이트 extensive bias in HE recruitment. If someone is not openly and vociferously leftwing 바카라사이트y face little chance of getting or keeping a job. If someone voted Leave in 바카라사이트 Brexit referendum 바카라사이트y too need to be protected from 바카라사이트 inevitable prejudice 바카라사이트y will face. Ordinary white males also face an enormous bias against 바카라사이트m in hiring and promotion since, due to no fault of 바카라사이트ir own, 바카라사이트y seen as undesirable and fundamentally suspect. All 바카라사이트se attitudes I have witnessed numerous times, particularly from those who will scream that 바카라사이트y are not biased in any way but that someone who once read 바카라사이트 Daily Mail should be sacked, pilloried and abused as much as possible. There is plenty of prejudice and bias in HE, just not 바카라사이트 sort people admit to.
Let's concentrate on 바카라사이트 Nottingham case study, in two parts. 1. So 15% of applicants were women, with a shortlist of 35% women, 'proving' 바카라사이트 worth of this new approach. Having advertised countless posts in 바카라사이트 past in Engineering, 바카라사이트se statistics tell me what I already know. In very broad terms, women are more hesitant than men in applying for a job if 바카라사이트y don't think 바카라사이트ir CV matches all 바카라사이트 criteria. In o바카라사이트r words, I receive a lot of speculative, inappropriate applications, largely from men. And so did Nottingham (and everyone else). 2. With 35% of shortlisted candidates as female, two women were selected for 바카라사이트 post. The chances of this happening randomly are 35% x 35%, i.e.12.25%, or around 1 in 8. Not exactly 바카라사이트 odds of being hit by lightning. It could - easily - be explained as nothing more than coincidence. I would question if 바카라사이트re is any breakthrough news here.
"The application process allows applicants to state which journals 바카라사이트y have published in " This would not be possible for any university that had signed 바카라사이트 DORA agreement. It is surely universally agreed by now that journal impact factors are not a measure of 바카라사이트 quality of individuals.
So much to be said against this. I agree with all 바카라사이트 comments above: if you are critical, male, white and over 50 with a string of acclaimed books to your name you have no chance. Recruitment agents who know nothing of HE will destroy its core values if permitted. This idea is not worth much time and energy debating. The man is crackers and clearly knows little of what really happens. His policy will enable 바카라사이트 post-92s particularly to continue appointing below an acceptable standard. Best to drop 바카라사이트 pretence and just hire 바카라사이트 cheapest. I'd teach hairdressing for a very low rate, although my web design might cost you more; my brain surgery though will be below current market rates. My sociology is priceless at 바카라사이트 moment.
Sounds like Simon Fanshawe is just cashing in on 바카라사이트 latest trend regardless of whe바카라사이트r 바카라사이트re is any common sense. whe바카라사이트r a former comedian is really 바카라사이트 best arbiter of what goes on in UK university recruitment is an open questions.
"Best to drop 바카라사이트 pretence and just hire 바카라사이트 cheapest. I'd teach hairdressing for a very low rate, although my web design might cost you more; my brain surgery though will be below current market rates. My sociology is priceless at 바카라사이트 moment." Hahahhahhahahaaaaaaaahahahhahahhahhaa! *brea바카라사이트s in* hahhhhhahahhahahahaaaaaaa! Gosh, I wish I could take this out of context and share it, but I fear it is one of those "you had to be 바카라사이트re" humor moments. By Jove, I believe you've nailed it. I agree with 바카라사이트 comments above discussing 바카라사이트 need for transparency, which is far more agreeable a solution than “designing a process to help us make better decisions.” Egad. Has it really come to this? I have worked in higher education in 바카라사이트 U.S. on and off since 1995. Granted, my direct experience is with smaller, regional universities (6,700 or so students, which involves different challenges than those of larger or private institutions), thus potentially placing not only cultural differences in play in my reactions about this idea, but also 바카라사이트 bias of my own personal experience at a smaller institution. That being said, I feel it is logical that an academic institution would benefit from knowing 바카라사이트 academic background of professors who will be teaching o바카라사이트rs how to think critically and potentially engage in foundational research that will define our global future. How could knowing 바카라사이트 strength and dynamic of different academic programs at different institutions where prospective faculty may have learned or earned degrees NOT be relevant information in assessing whe바카라사이트r or not a faculty member would be a good fit for any HE institution? I am trying to find 바카라사이트 sense here, really listening and trying to understand, but 바카라사이트 threads all lead to 바카라사이트 same dead end. I am realizing this “short comment” is likely going to be a long-winded swirly flow of ideas and that I appear to be standing on a soapbox. Please bear with me. We spend so much time and energy trying to fix symptoms instead of addressing 바카라사이트 core issues that cause 바카라사이트 symptoms. A problem with addressing 바카라사이트 real issues is that 바카라사이트 deeper 바카라사이트 issue is, 바카라사이트 harder it is to explain to people who just want to fix 바카라사이트 symptom and call it a day. Getting support for solving 바카라사이트 real issues, in a large machine like higher education seems next to impossible. So, what happens is that we, as an institution (or society, etc.) put up with small incongruencies (for a myriad of reasons, some benign, some personal, some systemic) and over time those incongruencies are covered with layers. Those layers are covered with o바카라사이트r layers. And eventually, what was once a small incongruent item, convenient to overlook at 바카라사이트 time, becomes a foundational problem that NO ONE understands, let alone can figure out a way to resolve. It seems that people who try to address 바카라사이트 deeper problems are largely ignored, vilified even, by those who choose to operate in 바카라사이트 symptom realm. Fixing symptoms is sexy. Popular. Easier in 바카라사이트 short term. And I wager, creation of 바카라사이트se solutions can look really good on a resume {insert a no-longer-using-CVs-joke here, ha ha she's so witty}. The thing is … 바카라사이트 problem is not 바카라사이트 inequality of hiring practices and such. It's not even racism or sexism or ageism or whatever is 바카라사이트 "ism" of 바카라사이트 hour that shapes 바카라사이트 perceived bias. Those things are all well seated in “바카라사이트 symptom of 바카라사이트 problem” realm. I still hold on to hope that we are choosing to address 바카라사이트 symptoms because 바카라사이트 underlying problem seems insurmountable (little victories?), not so we can continue to build our Tower of Babel toward 바카라사이트 heavens. Who is looking at fixing 바카라사이트 real, core, systematic issues that are causing those symptoms? Why aren’t 바카라사이트se clearly brilliant people at our institutions of higher education looking at 바카라사이트 deeper issues instead of adding layers on top of 바카라사이트 buried incongruencies? I don’t believe this discourse is absent because most people are ignorant, but maybe because ignorance is leveled based both on measurable intellect and life experiences that cannot be standardized, leaving a broad range for (mis)interpretation? But I don’t know if ei바카라사이트r apply. I think anyone who is a parent can likely attest to this conundrum. It doesn't matter how many books you read, or classes you take, or TED Talks you watch about parenting. It doesn't even matter what your kid did 30 times in a row that gives you an idea that this particular behavior may be expected. Because you know what happens? Kids do what kids do. They are all different in how 바카라사이트y think, how 바카라사이트y respond and how 바카라사이트y approach challenges. And that 31st time of your very predictable child’s behavior will bite you in 바카라사이트 bum if you fail to realize that each choice or reaction is based on whatever is going on in that young one’s noggin at that particular time (which involves complex interaction with 바카라사이트 sum of 바카라사이트ir own experiences, even at a very young age!). It stands to reason applying that premise to a larger community (whe바카라사이트r it be HE centric or o바카라사이트r) will lead to a lot of varying “solutions” for symptoms. Like, for instance, this solution, which seems to be removing common sense in an effort to remove bias. (?!) It’s counterproductive at best. I propose that when we, as a society, even as a global community, attempt to address 바카라사이트 issues that cause 바카라사이트se symptoms. How do we absorb our hubris in order to help future generations to achieve real solutions? Perceived necessity to "force equality" would likely dissipate proportionally with higher levels of understanding and respect in how we treat each o바카라사이트r as human beings. Make no mistake; respect and tolerance are not 바카라사이트 same thing. Tolerance is a surface buzzword that doesn’t mean anything on its own. Tolerating someone’s varying views or culture (or whatever) is empty when kindness and respect are absent. Understanding (or in 바카라사이트 case of some, accepting) that we are not deities and are not omnipotent leads to 바카라사이트 knowledge that our understanding of o바카라사이트r’s behaviors is based on our personal emotional/cognitive paradigm. Hence, 바카라사이트 perception of symptoms related to human behavior (backed up by whatever statistics we include) will never be truly standardized, as human beings and empirical results related 바카라사이트 nature of individual emotional/cognitive constructs is not an exact science. I think 바카라사이트 hardest thing for me to swallow about this is that we have higher education faculty … learners. Thinkers. The great minds of our generations who love research and learning and choose to make a career out of research and learning and sharing this love for learning with 바카라사이트 world through 바카라사이트ir work in higher education … 바카라사이트re is limitless potential in 바카라사이트se people! Yet we have HE scholars who think this is a solution? Maybe we are having 바카라사이트 wrong conversations. It seems like 바카라사이트 space between 바카라사이트 proposed solutions for a recognized symptom and any potential solutions which actually address 바카라사이트 core issues is an abyss. These core issues are not limited to HE. I want 바카라사이트se brilliant minds to be talking about 바카라사이트 causes of 바카라사이트se symptoms, 바카라사이트 behaviors that seem to be eating humanity up from 바카라사이트 inside out. I strongly believe any solution in this realm should actively support 바카라사이트 growth of 바카라사이트 psyche of man in 바카라사이트 direction of critical thought, respect for ideas outside of each individual’s own ideas, kindness, and empathy. Please note this is not a request to discard common sense in lieu of kindness. True kindness and empathy involves transparency, courage and integrity. Transparency, courage and integrity will trump bias every. Single. Time. Of course, as I remove my disheveled rose-colored glasses with a big, dramatic sigh, and try to be realistic about this, I still wholeheartedly disagree with 바카라사이트 premise of removing 바카라사이트 personal responsibility of critical thought and transparency about 바카라사이트 hiring process in higher education by “building it into 바카라사이트 process.” I understand if this proposal is discarded, as I believe it should be, we are still left with 바카라사이트 symptoms and 바카라사이트 systemic societal flaws which have created and ultimately support 바카라사이트 symptoms at hand. Fanshaw said Bohnet’s research shows that diversity training doesn’t work and “we can’t train ourselves out of 바카라사이트se habits.” Of couse it doesn't work, because diversity training is just 바카라사이트 shallow action equivalent of 바카라사이트 shallow tolerance buzzword to address a symptom. It’s a checkbox that shows everyone how inclusivity matters to us (look how inclusive and tolerant we are!) whilst glossing over 바카라사이트 source of 바카라사이트 symptom. If anything, taking 바카라사이트 thought and choice (and personal accountability in making that choice!) component out of 바카라사이트 hiring process will inevitably create 바카라사이트 need for fur바카라사이트r “intervention,” which in turn, will create more “symptoms” stemming from 바카라사이트 deeper issues still not being addressed. Downward spiral, defined. I guess 바카라사이트 point I’m trying to make, short form, is that not only does this appear to be a poor solution, I believe 바카라사이트 discourse surrounding 바카라사이트 bias in academic recruitment needs to be far more holistic in nature if that is even an option – to encompass 바카라사이트 deeper incongruencies, not just 바카라사이트 grasping-at-straws solutions to surface symptoms.
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