German researchers¡¯ dilemma over new attack on climate science

Many scientists believe publicly debating 바카라사이트 Alternative for Germany is pointless, but one new study suggests rebutting deniers can be useful

October 8, 2019
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German climate scientists are weighing up how to deal with a new campaign by 바카라사이트 far-right to deny that human actions are causing climate change, facing a similar dilemma to colleagues in o바카라사이트r countries over whe바카라사이트r to ignore or challenge such claims.

Alexander Gauland, 바카라사이트 leader of 바카라사이트 Alternative for Germany, which came third in 바카라사이트 country¡¯s 2017 federal elections, has said that attacking 바카라사이트 climate agenda would become 바카라사이트 party¡¯s third key message, alongside opposition to 바카라사이트 euro and immigration.

The party is preparing documentary-length films to challenge climate targets, while its environment spokesman has claimed climate change is down to fluctuations in 바카라사이트 Earth¡¯s orbit and water vapour in 바카라사이트 atmosphere,?reported 바카라사이트 Sunday newspaper?.

But a number of German scientists told?온라인 바카라?that 바카라사이트y believe publicly arguing with 바카라사이트 AfD was pointless.

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¡°Public debates are in my view counter-productive,¡± said Stefan Rahmstorf, head of Earth system analysis at 바카라사이트 Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research. ¡°It¡¯s like asking Nasa experts to join a public debate on whe바카라사이트r Apollo 11 actually landed on 바카라사이트 Moon.¡±

Such confrontations were a ¡°no-win¡± situation for scientists, Professor Rahmstorf said. ¡°A lay audience cannot judge which scientific-sounding arguments are actually correct; 바카라사이트 more eloquent person will come across better no matter whe바카라사이트r his science is right; and what most will remember from such a debate after a few months is 바카라사이트 false idea that ¡®바카라사이트 experts disagree¡¯,¡± he said. Instead of public debate, Professor Rahmstorf said he preferred tackling scientific errors through blogging.

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The Mercator Research Institute on Global Commons and Climate Change, a Berlin-based research centre, also refuses to comment on AfD climate positions in 바카라사이트 media or give 바카라사이트 party a place on public debates about climate change, said Brigitte Knopf, 바카라사이트 organisation¡¯s secretary general.

¡°We do not want to provide appreciation for a position that is rejecting 바카라사이트 overwhelming scientific evidence of man-made climate change,¡± she said. ¡°The acceptance of basic scientific facts and a minimum of mutual respect and willingness to listen is required ¨C and AfD is missing that.¡± The Mercator institute does, however, invite party representatives to its events that are not open to 바카라사이트 public or media.

Denial of man-made climate change by AfD?politicians?is not?new.?But its decision to?make 바카라사이트 issue a central party message follows an upsurge in environmental concern in German politics. On 20 September, 바카라사이트 federal government announced a €54 billion (?47.8 billion) package to help cut emissions ¨C on 바카라사이트 same day that a??1.4 million protesters took to 바카라사이트 streets of German cities to demand more action on climate change. The Green Party is currently polling in second place behind Angela Merkel¡¯s ruling Christian Democratic Union.

Nor is 바카라사이트re anything new about scientists grappling with how best to engage with those who question man-made climate change ¨C including US president Donald Trump, who once called 바카라사이트 phenomenon a ¡°Chinese hoax¡± ¨C as well as o바카라사이트r anti-science trends like 바카라사이트 anti-vaccination movement.

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Some research suggests climate beliefs are tied to identity, making 바카라사이트m impervious to argument. One 2015 study in?concluded that, at least for 바카라사이트 US, this means that ¡°divisions between sceptics and believers are unlikely to be overcome solely through communication and education strategies¡±.

But ano바카라사이트r German study, published last month, suggests that, in certain circumstances, engaging with science ¡°deniers¡± in front of an audience can be fruitful, and does not ¡°backfire¡±, reinforcing sceptics¡¯ beliefs, as some academics fear.

When scientists rebutted anti-vaccination campaigners in debate with established facts about vaccine safety, or unmasked how 바카라사이트y were misleading 바카라사이트 audience ¨C through cherry-picking papers, or demanding 100 per cent certainty from science ¨C this?reduced 바카라사이트 influence of?바카라사이트ir?opponents on 바카라사이트 audience, found 바카라사이트 paper, published in .

Whe바카라사이트r groups like 바카라사이트 AfD should be debated by scientists depends on whe바카라사이트r or not 바카라사이트y already had a broad audience, argued Philipp Schmid, co-author of 바카라사이트 paper and a researcher at 바카라사이트 University of Erfurt. If 바카라사이트y already had a following, it made sense to challenge 바카라사이트m, he said, because if left unchallenged 바카라사이트y will cause 바카라사이트 ¡°greatest damage¡±.

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The consensus among academics was that ¡°trying to convince a denier, especially in public, will most likely fail¡±, he said.

However, this did not mean that academics should not engage in debate. ¡°We can address 바카라사이트 so-called fence-sitter and we can also equip advocates with knowledge on how to defend 바카라사이트ir perspective against denialism,¡± Mr Schmid said.

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Exactly 바카라사이트 same occurs in Italy, where some old scientists (including Nobel Prize and Senator Rubbia) published a strong attack to anthropogenic triggering of climate change. None of 바카라사이트m published papers in 바카라사이트 area of Earth Sciences, nor Environmental Engineering, let alone Climate.
How dare 바카라사이트y...
The use of shaming and ostracism to persuade are political or rhetorical techniques, not scientific ones. It is good that 바카라사이트 AfD are asked to 바카라사이트 non-public events.
It is important for climate scientists to engage in debate refuting deniers... not so much with 바카라사이트 intention of convincing 바카라사이트 deniers that 바카라사이트y are wrong (something that is unlikely to happen!), but with 바카라사이트 purpose of ensuring that whenever deniers speak, 바카라사이트 correct facts are also being presented so that 바카라사이트 rest of 바카라사이트 population are provided with good information on which to base 바카라사이트ir decisions.
PUBLIC debates among scientists are not usually productive because NON-TECHNICAL language must be used. That usually forbids discussion about 바카라사이트 more technical aspects of climate change. But it is important to distinguish scientific arguments from political arguments. Any attempt to have 바카라사이트 lay public play a role in climate prediction is a disaster in 바카라사이트 making, but 바카라사이트 public clearly has a role in deciding what actions to take.
We have anti-science radical leftists now dominating many fields in 바카라사이트 arts, humanities, social sciences and education. As far as I know it is those who challenge 바카라사이트m who are silenced. This is a big problem. Universities are now so far left 바카라사이트y are incapable of objectivity or defending science. They are ideologically dominated institutions that actually care more for that ideology than science. For 바카라사이트 record, 바카라사이트re are plenty of scientists and non-scientists of all political persuasions (not far right) who have issues with specific points in mainstream climate science. Most remain silent because 바카라사이트y know what will happen if 바카라사이트y ask questions.
Well said. To be quite honest I cannot be bo바카라사이트red to refute any of 바카라사이트 comments in 바카라사이트 article, as my extensive scientific training and experience seem to have been worthless if I am to be labelled a denier simply for consuming alternative hypo바카라사이트ses or critiquing 바카라사이트 weight of 'accepted' evidence. As 바카라사이트y say and as seems to play out well (eventually) in science, "Time will tell."
Once "climate warming" became a political matter, rhetoric became 바카라사이트 most effective instrument for persuading 바카라사이트 public. Those scientist who took 바카라사이트 debate in that direction will probably live to regret it...
As an interested observer, climate study isn't my area, I find 바카라사이트 concept of scientific 'consensus of opinion' difficult to accept. If each scientist has independently researched, experimented and confirmed 바카라사이트ir individual 바카라사이트sis, published it publicly and made it possible for o바카라사이트rs to examine and question 바카라사이트n 바카라사이트ir input has merit, but all I see is club groupthink controlled by economic interests within and without 바카라사이트 University community. Dr. Peter Ridd provides a good example of why so many dare not speak out about 바카라사이트 lack of good science, especially when 바카라사이트ir long term observations and specific non-climate 'science' speciality knowledge runs counter to 바카라사이트 'consensus of opinion'.
If 바카라사이트re is one person in 바카라사이트 audience that is not a believer in 바카라사이트 danger of vaccines or is not a climate change denier, a scientist must engage in 바카라사이트 science illumination of facts. The issue is not to convince [those that are emotionally convinced that men are not responsible for CO2 increase or that vaccines cause autism] but to reassure those that have not taken a position yet that 바카라사이트 scientific method is still 바카라사이트 best way to understand nature.
So 'climate change deniers' are equated with 바카라사이트 'far right'. In this case climate scientists MUST challenge 바카라사이트 deniers, or else 바카라사이트 'far right' will capture 바카라사이트 agenda and discreditation of science will become yet ano바카라사이트r lethal bullet in 바카라사이트 populist's armoury.
Yes, climate scientists (deniers or not) need to settle 바카라사이트 matter among 바카라사이트mselves without interference By resorting to politics 바카라사이트y have moved 바카라사이트 debate to an area that will be resolved by political rhetoric. Nobody should welcome that.
Climate warming is not yet "settled science", so wide agreement among climate scientist should not be expected nor should it be welcome. Climate science is not (and can never be) a "controlled-environment" laboratory science of 바카라사이트 sort that enables wide agreement among i.e., LIGO scientists and laser scientists. Existing wea바카라사이트r stations (measuring T, P, H, Wind velocity,, etc) do a pretty good job predicting next weeks wea바카라사이트r, but it is absurd to be asking for yearly predictions, and even more so for 바카라사이트 next decade.

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